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Thanks for writing this. I'm generally anti-formal-education (and, in general, I think humans suck at teaching themselves and others, modern humans especially so), but your survey and opinions are still informative.

Regarding point #1, what - if any - is the standard of evidence that you think is fair for the pro-status-quo side ? On the one hand, you say that Bryan Caplan's demands of "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" evidence of them is too much. On the other extreme, we have the Chesterton's Fence standard, which say that the reformer have all the burden of proof on their shoulders but the status-quo side has none. Which point in between those do you think the pro-status-quo side has to occupy and defend ?

One other angle I have noticed in formal education but which doesn't seem to be brought up or even noticed by many people in the debate is how utterly redundant and wasteful formal education is. In my K12 education, I have learnt the exact same rehashed (and bad) formulation of some classical euclidean geometry theorems each year for about 3 or 4 years. I have learnt the exact same set of English grammatical rules each year about 7 or 8 years (and of course teaching grammar is the worst way to teach a foreign language). History is the exact same narrative structure from antiquity to early 21st century repeated with slightly more details and spice each year for about 8 or 9 years (and of course, forget about being taught actual history or historical methodology and questions. It's either a bunch of state propaganda stories or a disconnected set of useless facts and dates).

In my University years, I studied Computer Science. Each year has anywhere from 40% to 70% of courses unrelated to actual Computer Science, a useless (and extremly superficial and badly taught) Thermodynamics course, a useless (and extremly superficial and badly taught) Quantum Physics course. Actual CS courses have endless filler. An Image Processing course where the professor went on and on at length about 1980s techniques that nobody use anymore and are vastly superseded by modern yet very accessible techniques. A neural networks course where the professor started talking about neural networks in the last 2 lectures, the first of which was spent explaining what an artificial neuron is and making bad pop-science analogies to human brains that everybody who has remotely read about or used neural networks know to be untrue and a relic of 1950s AI hype. An embedded software course that consisted of an embarrassingly incompetent professor rattling off examples of Petri Nets (without understanding them) and reading facts about Arduino which anyone can get from the documentation. On, and On, and On, it goes.

Even ***if*** formal education is any good, it can be easily and lossless-ly compressed to 33% of its current size.

It seems obvious to me that formal education needs reform. Formal education was concieved in the 19th century by nation states to train kids for factory work, we're living in the 21st century where most people work Bullshit Jobs at corporations. Neither is a good model for the education of self-respecting human intellects. Fields and Disciplines advance at Blitzkrieg pace, someday you will have to study the entirety of your life to make a novel contribution in the final 5 minutes on your deathbed, and the day after that it won't be enough. K12 education, already built on a dysfunctional factory model where kids for the first time in history have no role models but other kids exactly as clueless as they are, is grows more and more irrelevant, more and more regurgitating of the exact same facts and models it teaches since 1950 mixed in with continuously evolving state propaganda. How does anyone see good in this system ?

(The above is largely not dependent on any specific country or education system, I'm not from the USA nor has studied there but I nod my head along whenever someone like Bryan Caplan speaks. Just like the Nation State and the Corporation were first forged in Europe and USA before spreading to the entire world, institutions like K12 education systems also had the same journey. Universities has more variance even on a per-specialization basis, and I might be wrong more often there.)

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There has been a related message that parenting quality is not very important, based on lack of effect on IQ. That argument suffers from a lot of the same flaws.

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